Curse

Myster Grim · May 03, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

I tested the check and reset theory.

I have two characters that were opening chest at almost the exact same rate. I had character A test the chest earlier then when the chest should have been open. Then after the time had expired for the chest to be open I had character B test and got his reward, then took character A to chest and unable to open. Next month if both open A and B open same time then we may have proved the check and reset theory.

Win some lose some, But when you lose take notes!

Clone · May 05, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I just wish Anet would say what this forumla is supposed to be. I have a character thats been waiting well over a month now. At this point, I'm assuming its a bug, but since they have these arcane formulas, they can sluff off fixing it. Its a nice out to say, "Its working the way it should," when none of the players are completely sure what that is.

Hyaon · May 05, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I am too sick of seeing other people go 'whoo its reset!' and it doesnt for me

Batou of Nine · May 06, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by explodemyheart

All of my characters have been able to open all of the chests 3 times now (and I always open them on all of my characters the same day), including the character that I play PvE with a good 90% of the time.

I find this applies to me also. I have opened all the "freebie chests" 3 times for 6 characters. Each character opened them on their own time frame, but opening them all per character during a single day. Keeping track of each individual character's time frame, it comes down to a basic month between intervals.

So each character could open all the chests again roughly a month later after the last time they opend the chests (30 day average, give or take). However, one thing i have noticed is that now after they all have opened the chests 3 times, it has been over 30 days past and they still cannot open the freeebies a 4rth time! Is 3 times the universal limit? Perhaps.

I just wish the chests didn't depreciate in drop item values either. By the time all my chars got to their 3rd runs, they got about 60% purple drops. Sad.

Anywhoo, just my take on the whole "secret chest formula", boiling down to a simple time frame idea...

cheers.

TempusReborn · May 08, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Sorry just looked at this thread by accident and now Im curious. Where are these chests? Could someone tell me or give a link to where it shows them? I have all 3 campaigns and I regualary Chest Run FoW so the prospect of free chests is wow!

Mournblade · May 08, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

There are 12 of them in Elona/Torment. Search guildwiki.org for hidden treasure and you'll have all the answers. =)

Sofonisba · May 09, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Miss Persephone

It's way simpler than all this. I have opened all chests, numerous times now, on numerous characters. And no, I'm not about to divulge it. All I will say is, don't randomly just try to open treasures. Do some proper research of your own, and take a note of all the variables you think could affect it. It was a really fun and rewarding experiment for me.

I think whoever made this chest formula had a sense of humour. I salute them.

Are you serious? Don't ya think you should tell us, so we could all appreciate the humor of the ANet devs together?

My "proper research" availability has been suspended due to the fact that every time I have gone out to try a chest (which I have not done in a month, I'm waiting to do the "check and reset" test), after 3rd on each character, it's been empty.

Either you're putting us on, or you're mean! lol jk

razor39999 · May 09, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Ok considering what Miss Persephone said, maybe it has something to do with the names of the chests and/or areas they're in and/or something more, plus put all that into a context of some popular story/movie/book (GW is full of references to series, various famous movies, manga, etc). And it might come up with a formula for the proper order to open chests.

From what I noticed is that the first chests I opened in my third go around were always golds (and had more gold coins than what I expected from that chest), then they started deteriorating to ruby/saphire/diamond or straight to purples and less gold than expected from that chest. To make this less confusing here's an example:
On my third go on a charr (think it was rit) I opened in the order from the low level areas to the high level areas. The ones on noob island had a gold item in it and around 800-900 gold (which is more than the 500 or so I came to expect from my first two runs). The ones later on started having less gold coins and droping more purples, ending up with purples and around 600-800 gold from Torment chests (the previous two runs had around 2.3-3k in these).
On my third go on another charr (Derv) I started from Torment and got golds and about 3k there and ended with noob island (200-300 gold, purple items).

My conclusion so far is the more often u open with the chars u get more purples and get them from the chests opened later on. My newest charr (/age about 3 weeks) had her first run (opened the chests in no real order) and got all gold items and the gold coin amounts comparable to those I had during the first run with my other charrs.

Sofonisba · May 09, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Interesting ^^

But the beef most people have with the chests, is not the stuff inside, it's the ability to reopen at all, which some people do not have (OR have tested it too soon and had the timer reset, or whatever the heck).

Actually, that's the only formula which interests me personally... can't speak for others.

TempusReborn · May 09, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Hello Its me - I was the newb who asked what these chests were

But after a quick run round I opened my first two hidden chests in the Realm of Torment (the one in jahai took me ages to find - actually cleared entire map of enimies in process) Just in cas eany1 wants to start a research project my two chests yeilded me both golds (a scythe (poor) and a spear (not bad)) and 3700g a piece. Il go after the next ones down so to speak sometime soon and tell you what those got me too.

Hell Raiser · May 09, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Well from what I have seen: All chests reset 30 days after the last time you attempted to open any. So if you open them on the 15th, and try to open the one outside Kodash 29 days later, you wont be able to open any for another 30 days. And this is per character, not account.

Mournblade · May 09, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I'll be testing that Friday Hell Raiser. I've kept a chart of all my characters and when they've opened each chest. According to this theory I should have a whole lotta treasure soon. (Friday will be 31 days since any of my 5 chest opening characters have touched a chest)

Cymmina · May 10, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35

My Dervish, 3rd time opening the chests (last time was April 1st or 2nd). Opened in order, except for Mirror of Lyss, which I did first. This character is barely played (only did a couple missions since the previous opening).

May 8, 2007
/age 85 hours, 50 mins, 5 months

1. Issnur Isles - Purple Hypnotic Scepter
2. Mehtani Keys - Purple Divine Staff
3. Jahai Bluffs - Purple Bramble Flatbow
4. Arkjok Ward - Purple Barbed Axe
5. Moddok Crevice - Purple Wooden Boar Scepter
6. Forum Highlands - Purple Broadhead Spear
7. Mirror of Lyss - Diamond
8. Hidden City of Ahdashim - Purple Ruby Maul
9. Sulfurous Wastes - Purple Ceremonial Cauldron
10. Ruptured Heart - Purple Ceremonial Cauldron
11. Nightfallen Jahai - Purple Margonite Robes
12. Domain of Pain - Purple Blessed Chalice

$7,467

There's a posibility that the longer you let the chests "recharge", the higher your odds will be that you will get a gold instead of a purple. I don't remember the first time I opened my treasures, but I think close to 2 months had passed and my second run was at least 80% gold.

Dragonious · May 10, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Honestly, I believe that to open a chest, you can't open it for exactly 1 month. You can't even touch it for 1 whole month's time. If you touch it 20 days into the month, it resets. Try that theory out. I'm not at all sure but it seems kind of likely to me. Don't know why...

Hell Raiser · May 10, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54

I believe Gaile said that the more times you open the chests, the higher chance you have of getting a purple.

Mournblade · May 11, 2007, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Ok, here's my results after a 31 day wait:

Tyrian Elementalist: could open her available chests again (8)
Tyrian Necro: could open her available chests again (2)
Elonian Dervish: could open her available chests again (2)
Tyrian Ranger: could NOT open her available chests again *0*
Tyrian Warrior: gonna wait a few more days and try. I hate to have to wait another 31 days if I screw something up. :P

So I don't know what the heck is up now. My ranger and warrior are the two who are completely finished with the game and can access all of the chests. So of course those are the ones i'm having trouble with re-opening. *sigh*

Miss Persephone · May 12, 2007, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Guys, I thought it was really bloody obvious from my last post about the chest openings how to get them as often as possible, but obviously not.

How would you guys like me to prove the formula? I can't provide some magic piece of proof that it works, there is no such thing. You want me to screeny everytime I open a chest with all my stats shown and the date or something?

I already said twice that I did all the testing for fun, and I'm not trying to keep some secret formula to myself. I was trying to dispel some of the speculation about requirements for re opening chests, but not giving it away 100% so other people could have fun finding it out too. Actually, I wish I had never posted to try help you people out. I thought I was being helpful, especially in my last post, but whatever. FFS its a game. I won't be checking this thread or helping crack this formula for anyone anymore. GG all.

Mournblade · May 14, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

Ok, here's my results after a 31 day wait:

Tyrian Elementalist: could open her available chests again (8)
Tyrian Necro: could open her available chests again (2)
Elonian Dervish: could open her available chests again (2)
Tyrian Ranger: could NOT open her available chests again *0*
Tyrian Warrior: gonna wait a few more days and try. I hate to have to wait another 31 days if I screw something up. :P

Took my Tyrian Warrior out today and she opened all 12 of her chests. This makes me want to suggest a tweak to the 31 day formula.

Chest opening time = 31 days + 1 day per # of times you've already opened the chests.

I recorded everything, so I guess now I just have to wait 35 days and see. :P

tommarrow · May 14, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

But does the time reset if you open a chest before the chest has reset?

Mournblade · May 14, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by tommarrow

But does the time reset if you open a chest before the chest has reset?

Yes. My Tyrian Ranger's experience supports that theory. I think if I had waited another two days, like I did with my Warrior, I could have opened all of the chests with her. :P